Rather:
Based on what you know, and I recognize we are dealing with so few facts, is it possible that just a plane crash could have collapsed these buildings or would it have required the sort of prior positioning of explosives? What do you think?

Hauer:
No, my sense is that just on the velocity of the plane and the fact that you have a plane filled with fuel hitting that building, that burned, the velocity of the plane certainly had an impact on the structure itself, and then the fact that it burned and you had that intense heat probably weakened the structure as well. And I think it was simply the planes hitting the buildings and causing the collapse.

As you can see the impact on the rescue workers, these people who are heroes in this building who have been impacted by this, the number of people who have been injured by this, the policemen and fire officiers, firefighters, who have been injured is just incalculable at this point.

Rather:
What perspective can you give us? I mean, there have been these repeated reports that, well, yes, Osama Bin Laden, but some think he's been over-emphasized as, as responsible for these kinds of events. I know many intelligence, uh, people at very high levels who say, listen, you can't have these kinds of attacks without having some state, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Syria, somebody involved. Put that into perspective for us.

Hauer:
Yeah, well I'm not sure I agree that this is necessarily state-sponsored. It, as I mentioned earlier, certainly has, the fingerprints of somebody like Bin Laden.